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Stein Valley - The Long Way

Today was a great day for a trail run! While out doing Mike and Melissa's Fun Run this morning, the topic of conversation turned to the Stein Valley and a Club Flash event some of us did in the fall of 2007. Sure, we got our asses kicked, but it was a blast. In the words of Colin Freeland, "We've got some unfinished business" with the Stein.

The plan is to run from Lilloett Lake, where there's a decomissioned access road leading to the Stein headwaters, to Lytton, where the Stein River empties into the Fraser. I think the total distance is about 110 kilometers.

There is snow on the route until well into the summer. The most daylight is around the start of July, but there will almost certainly be a lot of snow on the trails around Tundra Lake at that time. Colin and I figure the best time to try and tackle this beast is from mid-August to mid-September.

Here are the folks who come to mind as partners on a run like this:

  • Colin Freeland
  • Geoff Palmer
  • Desmond Mott
  • Bill Dagg
  • Glenn Pace
  • Curb Ivanic
  • Randy Rankin
  • Neil Ambrose

Tom Mills would be on the "A" team for crew as he helped us last time and he has to be there when we do the "full meal deal".

Anyone else interested? If so, please leave a comment below along with any thoughts on logistics.

My gut feel is that it would be best to camp at Lizzie Creek and the dirt road along Lilloett Lake and do a 2:00 am alpine start. That would put us at the Gates of Shangra La and the old cabin by the crack of dawn.

It would be cool to coordinate with some folks who might try running the 50K route in from Blowdown Pass.

Lots to chat about!

Here are some of the absolutely stunning photos we took on the Blowdown Pass ridge route in the fall of 2007.

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Ean Jackson's picture

First Baggers?

I'm starting to get my running mojo back.  This one has been on my list of "To Do's Before I Die" for some time. 

Anyone interested in running this from Lilloett Lake to the Stein Valley Trail head (the entire watershead) on a late August, early September weekend, pls drop a comment here.

Ean Jackson's picture

Kevin Vallely Shares His Adventure

Hey Ean,

Hope all's well.

We too got our asses kicked when we ran the Stein back in 1997, I think it was. We were driven up the road to the Gates of Shangri La but had to walk the final few km's because it was undriveable. We went in very light (too light it would prove) with the intent of moving fast. We had done this successfully on the West Coast Trail but the Stein is a whole different kettle of fish.

There was myself, Frank Wolf and my wife Nicky. We started off well and made good time over the alpine section. It's very technical in parts with steep scrambing on rocky side-cut slopes. We were nearly pulverised by a large boulder from above at one point, likely dislodged by an animal that heard us, but other than that the section went smooth. We made it down to Stein Lake in excellent time but this is where things took a turn for the worse. We had heard there was terrible blow-down for a km or so from Stein lake down the valley and weren't too surprised to see it. It was worse than we'd imagined with us barely touching ground for hours. But then the blowdown started to change to charred blowdown and fire debris. What we didn't know (and there were no signs at the start to warn us) was that a huge forest fire had ravaged the area the previous year and the trail was actually closed through this section. It had been deemed impassable. We were slowed to 1 km per hour for countless hours, moving from charred tree to charred tree, scraping at the bark to fing the moleten lumps of metal that used to be trail markers. It was absolutely brutal. I remember us running down one steep slope and catching up to two hikers with humungous backpacks. They were startled to see us (they had been the first hikers we had seen to this point) and looked at us blankly saying "where's your camp" to which we replied. "we're running, we stared the trail about 7 hours ago" To see their faces were priceless. "we started there seven days ago"

We made it through but nightfall caught up to us and we were still 30km out. We were forced to make a debris hut and huddle together for a very cold and fitful night. The next day we hobbled out with our tails between our legs...spanked!!

At the end there was a large sign stating that the trail was closed in the upper section and i mentioned to the ranger that he better get one in at the other end before someone really gets in trouble. We hobbled the 10km into Lytton (we had no one picking us up) stumbled into a local bar, drank what we'd earned, hopped on a bus back to Van and didn't run again for a month!

I've had a decade to lick my wounds. I'd be interested in another go :) Keep me in the loop.

Cheers,
Kevin
neil ambrose's picture

Stein

Regarding the Cabin, I assume you mean the Lizzie Lake Cabin? That was the only one I remember. Very rustic and crawling with mice! Better under the stars! Neil

Sick

Anyone who attempts this is a sick and twisted individual who should really consider seeking professional help.

Geoff

PS Count me in.

Bill Dagg's picture

I concur

You are, of course, completely right.
neil ambrose's picture

Stein Valley - The Right Way!

Are you considering doing this in one push!? We believe it can be done in 24hrs or less and would like to give it a go! The problem is when to start from Lizzie Lake in order to be hitting the toughest parts in daylight. When we did it last year, it was unsupported other than the Coronas and Chips waiting at the Lytton end! Lots to consider and plan, count us in - including Pat Walsh who did it with us before and is familiar with the trail. I guess I better inform Randy and Pat they are in! Neil
Ean Jackson's picture

One push, uh huh

It has to be done.  I figure this is a first-bagger opportunity from Lilloett Lake to the Fraser River, as I think Frank Wolfe and those boys ran from the cabin back when you could drive up there. 

Des was wondering if the cabin at the top is still there and functional.  Do you know?

i'am in

Hopefully we won't have the logistic problems of this past year. Mandatory gear check at the start .Still think starting from the cabin should be considered. des
Bill Dagg's picture

Yeah Baby!

Me too!
mudrunner's picture

Pick me! Pick me! Pick me!

I'm on it...like Oprah on a cheeseburger!

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